Ep. 46: How to Use Comedy in Your Storytelling with Kathy Klotz-Guest
Updated: Nov 28, 2020
This week’s guest is Kathy Klotz-Guest, Keynote Speaker, Story Strategist, Author, and Improv Comedian. You may not think about it but comedians are some of the best storytellers on earth! Rain and Kathy discuss raising the stakes in your storytelling, yes-and-ing your clients, and incorporating comedy and improv into your marketing strategies.
If you’ve been following The Storytelling Lab for a while, have seen me speak, or have read any of my content, you’re probably familiar with how much I talk about comedians and their use of storytelling techniques.
That’s because comedians are usually great storytellers!
Well this week on the show I hosted Kathy Klotz-Guest, who is an improv comedian, speaker, and author that uses her skills to help people tell the stories of their brands.
She gets it.
Not only does she get it, she teaches it!
Through her brand “Keeping It Human,” Kathy uses improv exercises to help people and companies understand how to communicate effectively to their customers -- other humans!
In improv comedy, there is a concept called “Yes, and.” “Yes, and” means that whatever your partner -- and in business, that’s your client -- presents to you as the scenario, you have to build upon that.
You can’t reject it. You must meet in the middle,
say “yes” and then add something of value.
So instead of competing with your clients and telling them that “this is what you should do,” we should listen from a place of empathy (a human place) to understand their needs, their values, and what they are bringing to the table.
We “Yes, and” to meet them where they already are and to build with them.
Kathy and I also talked about how using comedy can be a successful way to start the conversation, but at the end of the day, we also have to bring real truth and real value to our clients.
“The best storytelling I know, even in business, is about the absolute truth.”
If we break down what improv comedy is really about -- a pas de deux, or “dance for two,” if you will -- then we can understand creative ways to make a connection with our clients and can work together to solve any problems they may be having with their communication or marketing.
If you’ve ever wanted to learn more about comedy, or you’ve heard me talk about how it can help you be a better storyteller but weren’t sure exactly how,
this episode will teach you effective improv comedy techniques to connect more deeply with your clients!
Some highlights from our conversation:
What Keeping It Human means & why it matters right now
An update on the COVID crisis: Rethinking things in the midst of this transition period
Bridging the gap through storytelling
Kathy’s background in tech marketing
Kathy’s journey into storytelling
Why the “human stuff” matters the most in transactional communication
There’s more than the day-to-day ROI speak
Why data needs to be wrapped into your story
How Kathy mixes storytelling with comedy
Having a clear point of view in your storytelling
The difference between theme and story
The difference between stand up and improv
How comedy and improv require an amazing amount of listening
Incorporating crowd work into your speaking
How to “yes and” whatever cards we are dealt: we can also think about this in the midst of our current COVID pandemic
Why we need to start listening more
Why you should think about what your audience is going through & their current needs
Using EMPATHY in your marketing
Taking the opportunity to be different
Honoring your long term goals
Using improv in marketing & consulting
Why storytelling in business doesn’t need to be transactional
Improv exercises you can use to better tell your brand story
Raising the stakes
Story Spine: a tool to structure your story
Finding the Protagonist: don’t make yourself the protagonist in your story
Why you need to use Pattern Disruption: very five minutes your brain adapts. Don't let your audience get bored!
Why details are your friend
The line to how much comedy we can use in our business storytelling
Looking at storytelling through a funnel
Comedy as a great device for when you want to do something different
Comedy as truth: Think about the truths you want to tell
Going back to the basics of what make us human
As always, I hope you enjoy the episode!
Peace and Love,
Follow Kathy on Twitter @kathyklotzguest
And learn more about her work at keepingithuman.com
For more storytelling tips and tricks,
Follow us on Instagram @sixsecondstories
Visit our website sixsecondstories.com
MORE related content:
Read Stop Boring Me: Kathy’s Book
Want to see Kathy in action? Watch Batman & Hotwheels: Comedy Tips for Marketing
Story Spine: Ken Adams’ understanding of story structure
Kathy’s speech Batman & Hotwheels: Comedy Tips for Marketing
Bill Hayder's impression of Alan Alda on Saturday Night live (One of Rain's favorites)